I Will Not Be Surprised if Republicans Convict Trump

Just putting a marker down here. We supposedly have fifty seats in the Senate, with Harris breaking ties in favor of Democrats. It takes 67 votes to “convict” (whatever that means in this ludicrous context), so we are told that there is now way the Senate will convict. Let us assume that every Democrat votes to convict, leaving 17 Republican votes required in order to make the process go. So this is not a question of whether the Democrats will convict, but whether the Republicans will.

But there’s no 17-vote safety margin.  Now, I have stopped paying attention to just which swamp things with one lapel pin are any good at opposing their dopplegangers with differing lapel pins, as the whole thing has become a farce.  But you don’t need program notes to know that the shills, the RINOs, the cowards and preening poseurs, the “Mavericks” and their fart-sniffing coterie, are legion.  There always seem to be more of them than we think, especially when it really matters.  Heaven knows, we discovered a whole nest of them just recently, many of whom are busily hammering the RESET button.  Rand Paul comes to mind, who speechified us regarding the Congress’ duty to simply rubber-stamp whatever was placed before it on January 6th.  Now he’s all for fighting the good fight.  Now that it is too late, he is en fuego.

And so it goes, and I will not be surprised to discover that somehow there were at least 17 swamp creatures indistinguishable from their life-partners across the aisle, who vote with their core constituency — the deep state.

McConnell is the one who has the power to convict, as he is the guy who will decide who gets to vote one way and who must vote another, based on whatever his arranged outcome and the local considerations of his 49 henchthings.

I will be surprised if there are fewer than (say) a dozen who so defect.  Some of them will need to vote that way to shore up support (so they think) with the squishes back home.  Were I to put money on it, I’d take a spread from 60-70 votes to convict.  And while not counted in that total, any Republican Senator who abstains is just as bad as a vote to convict.

They just don’t give a feck.

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  1. Why would they have gone this far if they weren’t actually intending to convict? Were they taking bribes from Nancy with each vote?

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  2. If 5 Republicans don’t show up, that means 64 votes is needed for two-thirds. That still means 14 Republicans. Unlikely.

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  3. Now, the current cohort of R’s are inept and not even slightly actually conservative – with a few exceptions. My question is: Are they at least politically savvy enough (it doesn’t take much brain power) to know it will destroy their party’s chances to win the house (sic) in the next mid term elections? I can’t think of anything as demoralizing as this would be to some substantial number of the 75 million Trump voters. It would require them to ignore the facts – especially the actual words of the Trump speech – and the substantial likelihood that the election actually WAS stolen. This would be, in effect, a kick in the teeth of the R base. Do they get that??

    Oh, did you get the fact that the Constitution requires the Chief Justice to preside over the impeachment trial of the President? The make-it-up-as-you-go answer to why he doesn’t have to preside is that “Trump isn’t President”. How then can it be Constitutional to impeach a private citizen? No problem. The senate (sic) simply votes and says “it’s Constitutional”. And they will also tell you with a straight face that this is a “nation of laws”. Disgusting. It is an insult to third world countries to call us ‘third world’.

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  4. Flicker:
    Why would they have gone this far if they weren’t actually intending to convict?

    Because this is theater, an in theater the results don’t matter; it’s the process that matters. Don’t underestimate its propaganda value.

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  5. I predict that a few will defect and vote with the Left to virtue signal but not enough to reach 67. That way, the virtue signaling comes for (almost) free for those senators in marginal states, i.e., with minimal cost to the party as a whole.

    This happens all the time. A few Congress-weasels are permitted to ‘vote their consciences’ without changing the final result.

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  6. I predict that the Senate’s farce is irrelevant and will not long be remembered.

    Recall that bust of Winston Churchill, which President Trump restored to the Oval Office and Pretender Beijing Biden’s flunkies promptly removed after wheeling him into the space? Winston was UK Prime Minister during World War II, taking his country to victory — and was promptly voted out of office by an ungrateful population. Yet today, Churchill’s name is remembered, and hardly anyone can remember whoever it was replaced him in the PM slot. So shall it be with President Trump — the future will honor him, even as the Swamp’s agents of Chinese power try today to carve his name off of monuments.

    What President Trump demonstrated is that it is impossible for an elected politician to make any substantial change in the direction of the entrenched bureaucratic army in the 90% Democrat-voting Swamp. We will have to wait until the incompetence of those Swamp dwellers finishes destroying the US; then we can rebuild without them.

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  7. Gavin Longmuir: Yet today, Churchill’s name is remembered, and hardly anyone can remember whoever it was replaced him in the PM slot.

    I wouldn’t go that far. The Left in Britain still reveres Attlee (the first Earl Attlee). After all, he established the holy NHS.

    Trump is no Churchill. His legacy will be controversial at best. Depending on who writes the history books, Trump will be portrayed as a weird anomaly or a quintessential villain. There won’t be busts of Trump in the Oval Office or in Number 10. Trump will not be made an honorary citizen of the United Kingdom, nor will he win a Nobel Prize. If there is any prospect of Trump’s rehabilitation, it will happen many decades from now, after the rot of civilization called progressivism is rooted out of the West. Don’t hold your breath.

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  8. drlorentz: “If there is any prospect of Trump’s rehabilitation, it will happen many decades from now …”

    We agree about that. Too many of us these days expect things to happen in a few news cycles — but everything takes time.

    Future historians will not be exposed to non-stop idiot commentary on CNN. They will note that President Trump was the first (probably, only) elected official to recognize that the US was in serious trouble, economically & socially. They will also recognize the forces arrayed against him. And since they will know then that this chapter ends with the collapse of the US, whether under Beijing Biden or his similarly “elected” successor, they will be much more sympathetic to President Trump’s frequently thwarted efforts to turn the ship around.

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  9. drlorentz: Because this is theater, an in theater the results don’t matter; it’s the process that matters. Don’t underestimate its propaganda value.

    Yes, I see this whole struggle to impeach Trump as more propaganda. As well as being a deliberate signal to the next populist who comes long and doesn’t care to follow the globalist template that the 60 controlling families of the world have dictated to anyone who moves into the political arena. The impeachment charade is theater that is stating “Do as we will you to do, or we will encrust you in scandal.”

    A person who sets their sites on the Oval Office, had been deliver on getting a new war or two started during their four years, as well as allowing China to achieve not merely economic dominance over our nation, but political power as well.

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  10. Carol Joy: a deliberate signal to the next populist who comes long and doesn’t care to follow the globalist template

    Zackly.

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  11. squidlet:
    test

    maybe TPTB can come and take this out. . .

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  12. BDB: “I will not be surprised to discover that somehow there were at least 17 swamp creatures indistinguishable from their life-partners across the aisle, who vote with their core constituency — the deep state.”

    It turned out there were only 7 Swamp Creature Republicrats willing to ignore the Constitution and vote to impeach a private citizen. So former President Trump is safe — former president Barry Soetero … we will have to see! If it is now “constitutional” to impeach private citizens, would anyone like to see my list. 🙂

    Reading between the lines, it seems that the Evil Democrats backed down on calling witnesses so that they could get to the vote quickly and get this farce over with. That implies those Evil Democrats were hearing lots of static from their Locked Down hurting citizens who think that the “Senate” should have higher priorities than pursuing Mean Girl vendettas against a former elected official.

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